With a month until the NBA season, players and owners don't sound much closer to a labor deal than they did when the lockout began. They're so far apart on money they decided to leave it alone Saturday and focused mainly on the salary cap. They couldn't solve that one, either. “I wouldn't say there was any progress. What happened was, they put some concepts up, we put some concepts up, and we're still miles apart,” union executive director Billy Hunter said. “There's a huge bridge, gap, that I don't know if we're going to be able to close it or not.” The sides will meet again Monday — the day training camps were to have begun — though time is getting short to save the start of the regular season, scheduled for Nov. 1. Neither side sounds optimistic. In a seven-hour bargaining session, their longest since the lockout began July 1, the sides talked about one of the two major issues that divides them. Owners want a hard cap, or at least want a number of changes to the current soft cap system, which the players prefer to keep largely intact. The sides didn't even attempt to deal with the division of revenues, the other big obstacle to a labor agreement that would end the lockout. Commissioner David Stern said he had nothing to announce in terms of cancellations.