The long looks on players' faces and the anger in Deputy Commissioner Adam Silver's voice made it obvious: There was no progress Tuesday in talks to end the NBA lockout. And with less than three weeks until training camps, the latest setback may be a tough one. “I think coming out of today, obviously because of the calendar, we can't come out of here feeling as though training camps and the season is going to start on time at this point,” players' association president Derek Fisher of the Lakers said. Still divided over the salary cap structure, owners and players decided to pass on talking again, and no further meetings are scheduled at this point. “Well, we did not have a great day, I think it's fair to say that,” Commissioner David Stern said. “On the other hand, we did say that it is our collective task to decide what we want on the one hand on each side, and two, what each side needs if we choose to work ourselves in such a way as to have the season start on time. That's still our goal.” Training camps have been expected to open Oct. 3 and the regular season's opening night is scheduled for Nov. 1. “We're a bit pessimistic and discouraged,” union executive director Billy Hunter said.